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Post by june_whitfield Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:30 am

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Post by Monglord Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:23 pm

Hmm, reminds me of the Buell- happened to me twice.

Did you ride the Mouse wagon of FAIL home?

Edit: Does the F in F650 stand for FAIl btw? Smile
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Post by voodoo Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:20 pm

June, being a Dzjerman, probably had a spare belt.

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Post by june_whitfield Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:21 pm

twice?! over how many miles?

as i mentioned at the F'up i knew the belt was due soon, but i'm banking on the new one lasting several years....

and yes i did hitch a ride on the FAIL wagon (a right posh one, with a camera in the back so you could watch the bike on the dashboard entertainment screen unit thingy)
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Post by spotarama Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:34 pm

bit of old knicker elastic'll fix that
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Post by virusjohn Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:19 am

It has about 3 torques, i bet a bit of bog roll would be strong enough lol

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Post by Monglord Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:44 am

"3 Torques"- made me snigger.
It's a single- power pulses!

So 3 belts in 30,000 miles for the Buell.
I believe somewhere in the marketing blurb "it will last the lifetime of the bike" was mentioned- hahahaharofl etc
In reality I believe it snapped when the belt was worn and the suspension was at full extension.
It happened even after the factory solid-mounted guide wheel was mounted on an aftermarket sprung tensioner Rolling Eyes
This actually reminds me of exactly why I was thinking of fitting a chain drive conversion...

Moral of the story is to keep an eye on the condition of the belt and replace early as a precaution.
Weighing up the lack of maintenance but potential to just snap of a belt against the benefits of a chain which will need occasional adjustment and lubing- hmm...I know which I'd choose given the choice.
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Post by june_whitfield Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:20 pm

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Post by esox Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:43 pm

One word: ......shaft........drive.....
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Post by voodoo Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:06 pm

'nother word: splines (but that's kind of a beemer shaftdrive disease)

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Post by spotarama Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:01 pm

i've had a chain snap ( whilst hammering across an intersection with oncoming traffic bearing down upon me ) and i'd just like to state it was one of the scariest motorbicycling experiences i've ever had

i hate chains, shaft drive for the non fail win
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Post by twofiddy Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:07 pm

voodoo wrote:'nother word: splines (but that's kind of a beemer shaftdrive disease)

I've heard that's how glitter is made. A big shed full of K series final drives, with a machine subjecting them to a normal amount of wear and tear and regular service intervals Razz

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Post by der_nanno Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:12 pm

esox wrote:One word: ......shaft........drive.....

Fully enclosed chain... I just swapped the chain on my TR1 even though it has only done 116,000km as I couldn't get a new master-link for it anymore. The new chain was a whopping 65 Euros. Hope it'll last another 38 years. Shocked

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Post by twofiddy Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:13 pm

der_nanno wrote:
esox wrote:One word: ......shaft........drive.....

Fully enclosed chain... I just swapped the chain on my TR1 even though it has only done 116,000km as I couldn't get a new master-link for it anymore. The new chain was a whopping 65 Euros. Hope it'll last another 38 years.  Shocked

You let me know if you ever fancy fancy making one of those enclosures up for my bike.

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Post by der_nanno Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:02 pm

Well it came factory on mine... maybe we should have a little chat as I might be able to source you a spare enclosure and if you're still running that KLE-thingy, I might be able to borrow one locally to see if it's doable at all.

(TR1s run a 630 chain, so the whole assembly is M-A-S-S-I-V-E.)

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Post by june_whitfield Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm

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sorted......
only had to sell both kidneys and the soul of my first-born child!
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Post by twofiddy Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:08 pm

Oooo fancy.

If you haven't already it might be worth looking into machinery drive belts next time round if it's mega spendy. You'd need the pitch, width, tooth count, tooth shape etc etc (I've read that if you can't find the right width you can run a skinnier belt without issue).

Priced one up for the en500, even their lowest spec belt would far exceed the requirements of the 50hp bike and came in at about £40+VAT

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Post by _Mouse_ Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:39 am

This man speaks the truth,

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Post by june_whitfield Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:41 pm

no such luck, checked with several suppiers and it's an odd size belt only available from BMW (despite being made by Gates)
the closest i found had same pitch, couple mm too wide and 24 teeth too long....
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Post by Monglord Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:11 pm

Wow, if that's standard fitment it looks kinda narrow compared to the width of the pulley.
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Post by virusjohn Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:43 pm

thats so when the pulley wears you can run your wheel out of line with the bike so it wears on the good bit of pulley left over

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